Carlos Berlocq - Potito Starace

David, hundedoara1979 said something that I am interested also: "the new system we can't see the tips that haven't been settled". I thought initially that it just seems to me, but looking in detail you can't see these tips! I do not think it is normal, but is there any explanation on this matter? Thanks!

Actually guys, on hindsight, we receive the official starting time via our new system so we should stick to that instead. That is unless the difference is huge between what the system suggests and what the official tennis webpage lists.

Due to the fluctuating nature of tennis starting times we can, just like with odds, stick to what the respective bookmaker being used is setting as the official time. Therefore refer to the bookmaker chosen for your bet. If we encounter any abuse and difficulties with verifying such starting times we will revert to the official starting times.

Yeah I understand that you are not going against me, but just sharing your oppinion about this case. I tried to say you this in the previous post. I think that some time ago, Maradona1 was posting tennis picks with starting time which he took at some bookies. It was exactly the same case which you mentioned above (5 minutes difference) and I remember that one of the admins said that we are going according to bookies rules only for the pick settling purposes, while starting time has to be official.

L'Imperatore for me is the same place because either you take the first place or not I remain with the 3rd place ( ok it remains to be seen because with the new system we can't see the tips that haven't been settled so I suppose today all the tipsters will update their tips from last month) and I just shared my opinion so nothing agaisnt you. Regarding tennis you have right the order of play from the tournaments organizators it should count because they made the order of play. But You see many bookies have for example 11.05 instead if 11.00 as starting hour for Murray's match from Dubai and according to Betting Expert rules the bookies are right so at thid moment any tipster can uploade a pick 3 hours before 11:05. As you have seen there are different opinions above this matches even on oddsportal, xscores, tennisexplorer and mabye many others but David will give his opinion when will see.

We had many times already disscusions about starting time of out tennis picks and if I can recall it correctly, back then we said that we don't set it according to bookies, but according to the official time. Looking at official site of the tournament, for which you provided the link, it is clear that both (my and your match), were scheduled to start as soon as match before theirs (on the same court) ends. That is why I believe that there is nothing wrong with the times and the dates, which were already set in BE system. But ok, everybody has its point, so lets wait for David's angle on this case.

I look forward to see how will be solved this problem as we might see it in other months also! Maybe we can update the site rules with this example!

Bet365 for example has ths: 01 mar. 2012 02:00 Albert Ramos v Stanislas Wawrinka 01 mar. 2012 01:05 Benoit Paire v Nicolas Almagro 01 mar. 2012 01:05 Carlos Berlocq v Potito Starace 01 mar. 2012 04:00 David Ferrer v Lukasz Kubot 01 mar. 2012 01:05 Fernando Verdasco v Juan Ignacio Chela 01 mar. 2012 01:05 Jeremy Chardy v Kei Nishikori 01 mar. 2012 01:05 Pablo Andujar v Florian Mayer 29 feb. 2012 22:00 Santiago Giraldo v Marcel Granollers Pinnacle is the key to settle this so put the results from Pinnacle and see if you event was played yerterday ro today.

L'Imperatore you don't have to say to me how tennis starting time is tell this to Sportbetting77 because as you see he was the one that has raised the question here not me. In the moment I have chosen to play from Acapulco yesterday there was only one match scheduled from the men’s competition for February 29th: Giraldo vs Granollers Pujol. All the others were scheduled for March 1st. Oddsportal has: Yesterday, 29 Feb 2012 23:45 Berlocq C. - Starace P. 2:0 1.83 3.00 57 22:10 Giraldo S. - Granollers-Pujol M. 2:0 2.35 1.87 All the other were played in March, 00.10. So does tennisexplorer: 23:45 Berlocq C. Starace P. 22:10 Giraldo S. Granollers-Pujol M. While xscores has: 01:15 VERDASCO F. (ESP) CHELA J 01:10 ANDUJAR P. (ESP) MAYER F. (GER 01:10 PAIRE B. (FRA) ALMAGRO N. ( 00:40 BERLOCQ C. (ARG) STARACE P. I don't know this will be handled by David. I know one thing that as I said above in the moment I have chosen to play tennis from Acapulco only one match was scheduled for February 29th all the other were scheduled in March the 1st. Official site of the competition has: http://abiertomextenis.com.mx/orden-de-juego/miercoles-29-de-febrero-2012 The Betting Expert rule says that official start of the matches is the one from the bookies. So Pinnacle is the one that should decide you bet on Andujar and my bet on Berlocq and other bets that were posted by the other tipsters from Acapulco. But to be fair as I said when I have chosen to play from Acapulco there was only one match scheduled for February 29th and I know this for sure because I have checked it and said to me that Granollers Pujol is my only option from Acapulco to finish the month but tennis has an unique starting hour because the matches are scheduled one after the other and depend on how long one match needs to be finished. David will provide the answer today so ….

Hunedoara1979, that is not completely true. They were scheduled to start right after those matches which started at 22:00, so there was not certain official time, but starts depended of how long the matches before will last. That is why some of them started earlier and some of them started later. These dates and the starting hours were pre-set in the BE system for posting tips, so it should not be changed.

Yes David all the matches from the single competition from Acapulco except Granollers Pujol vs. Santiago Giraldo were scheduled for today so you have to move several tips from several tipsters that have played these events from Acapulco.

this one starts on 01/03/2012 00:00! David please modify the data here, should be counted for next month!