Monthly Tipster Competition

What is your system if we can know?

Granted LikeyouLikeyou you do make a fair point. I may have misused the word 'free'. And I am sure you put in a lot of work looking at the number of tips you have submitted. So I use the word added 'bonus' for me at least. Because regardless of this website I put in the hard work for my own bets which is where I make most of my winnings. Adding my tips to this website and winning (when I do) is an added bonus to what I already have. I also think BE staff are among the best and most helpful out there. In my opinion, if you are a good enough tipster to win a prize over the course of the month then you are good enough to turn free bets into healthy profit. I turned my £50 free bet into £50 cash using a good system.

But there's one thing I can't agree with you. Please don't call the prizes "free". In my term, word "free" means you do nothing and suddenly money from no where drop on your head. It's not the case for competitions. You can't get it free, you have to work (and fight) very hard for it. So when you feel something it's not right, at least you have rights to complain even you know it can't change anything (valyJ12 and me for example). BE's administrators actually are very good that they let their tipsters say whatever they want, not many places allow you do it.

You're right, wdy11. Even it comes as freebet, BE's prize still the best compared to other tips-competition places. Plus, the website GUI and BE's staff quality are excellent. The prize could be better in my opinion but overall I'm happy for what I got here. Definitely a place I will stay for a while.

I would just like to say that a prize is a prize no matter how big or small. We don't get a lot for free in life so the chance to use winnings (free bets) and bet without risk of losing money to win real money is a bonus. The prizes are far more generous on this site than most and everyone who receives prizes should be grateful. And I found it funny that one tipster complained that another would win every month. It's like conceding before you eve begin. If I lined up next to Usain Bolt I wouldn't just let him have it I'd fight him to the finish line!! Good on you Likeyoulikeyou for your success. Much stiffer competition now.

ok thanks

That is correct, as explained by yourself AlmostFamous.
Higher up, in this same page, there are prize regulations. Please refer to those for clarification of any doubts.

Hi, I'm new here and I dont really understand what you are saying. If I win a 100£ prize in the monthly competition I will be credited on my Samvo account the 100£ right? But this is just a bonus so I can't transfer on my bank account but play it right? And now if I bet 100£ on an odd of 2 I win 200£ or 100£ because they take back the original 100£bonus. Please could you clear that one out for me.
Thank a lot
Almostfamous

I'd also like to share my regrets and be a crybaby for a little:
Just like likeyoulikeyou says, I was sure I would manage to guarantee at least half the prize but I bet on NBA matches and even though Samvo have only two sports to bet on, they don't even offer to bet on all NBA matches when there are about 8-12 matches played. For example, the day before yesterday I had 4 value bets on NBA and 3 of them went through, but Samvo offered only two matches from those four so instead of getting 75 % of my stake from bonus back I got only 50 % (I bet on over/under so you can say it's even odds). This night I had six value bets and 3 went through, but Samvo offered only 3 matches from those 6 and only 1 of them went through. So I got 1/3 of my stake with bonus. So now I think I won't even get 1/2 of my prize but of course those who bet on tennis usually should be most disappointed that there is no such market. But saying all this I want to say that I'm still happy about the prize and not complaining since these days to get something for free is hard and should be welcomed always no matter the bad sides.
Just wanted to share :)

If you wanna be safe, the prize will be gone half. I actually use a strategy to convert odds. For example, Sandhausen to win at best odds 4.25 (Marathonbet) while Samvo offer 3.68. Let say I bet 100$, the return money if I win is 100 * 4.25 = 425. With Samvo I have to bet 425 / (3.68 - 1) = 160 to achieve the same result. So I just lose 60$ (3/10) not 100$ (1/2, half prize). If the odds higher, the money you lose will be lesser. Hope it helps. I have no complaints because that's the rule, but valyJ12 says nothing wrong here, the prize actually is just half, you won 700 but it's just 350, if you try it best it you can gain more, like 490 (7/10). Once again, I respect the rule but I can't say I'm happy, because the prize is not good as it should be.

valyJ12, it's called free bet and this is nothing new.

Hello. I well received the Samvo prize, thank you; still, I thing the way of treating bonus transactions is not fair. If your bet is a winner , you will only receive as return the profit, the stake is lost.
if you bet for example 10 EUR at 1.5 odds and it is a winner , you will get 5 EUR in return, and the initial 10 that you wagered are lost... For iniesta for example, who seems to be very happy about his prize , he must wager all the 300 at odds of 2 an win them all in order to be able to use the entire amount....or of course use higher odds..

BE i love you, Samvo i love you http://i46.tinypic.com/282e1ps.jpg

Only two tipsters still need to get it. Once their accounts are confirmed they should receive the bonus too. I have sent them a separate e-mail with the required information.
All other tipsters should find their bonus in their Samvo account. Remember that you have 60 days to make use of it.
Good luck guys.

I have received the bonus.

I am not your mate and also don`t care what do you think about me. Just be patient what you say (read debate etiquette).

Easy guys. Corrections have been made and an e-mail sent to your inbox CASTRO. Please use that one for any contact you may need to make or leave comments on the tips themselves.

greekbanker...what´s your problem man!!?? I had both emails from Joe and David but I lost them. Mind your business dude, it´s nobody´s fault if you´re a loser, leave people alone mate!

Guys what about writing an E-Mail? Is it that hard to understand? I am sorry but only a few have questions who belong to the topic...
@David: You may consider writing the E-Mail of any BEXP admin below your profile or something like that.

Great David, thanks!

Hello David, it´s possible a correction in my two last tips from Sporting?
I corrected them wrongly...
If you can, check that for me please..
See ya, thanks

The list has been sent to Samvo guys. Prizes should be paid out soon.

Not that it matters that it's taking a few extra days, but a good idea seems to be, to me at least, to set a deadline of 3 days for tipsters to confirm what they need to confirm and if they don't do it then hand out the prices to the winners? Because it's silly that one tipster can delay everything for everyone else just by not replying to an e-mail.. but then again the prices are really big and it's not worth complaining when it's free

One last tipster has been delaying the whole process. If a tipster cannot confirm then a substitute has to confirm his own account before being included in the list. He informed me that he should be able to confirm his account by today.
All of this would not have been necessary had all tipsters read and complied with the 18th March comment I posted on this very same page asking all to make sure they have opened an account at Samvo through a bettingexpert
link, made a deposit and placed at least a bet.
Prizes would have been in your accounts almost a week ago. Hopefully by tomorrow everything will be sorted out by the last tipster remaining.

David, have you sent a list with last month winners?

A challenge, just like profit, should always be welcomed with open arms.

you don`t work ? you have to much free time :) so many tips

@Stardu5t: Come on man, that's not true. I can't keep good profit for every single month, there must be months when I screw thing up We all have equally chance.

hegemony began for likeyoulikeyou. 1st place will always be for him. :(

$20 should be enough desad.

"- IMPORTANT: All tipsters need to have opened the Samvo
account via a bettingexpert link, made a deposit and wagered the money."
How much wagered the money? If I make a deposit of $ 20, how big a bet to do to take part in this competition?

I'm already contacting subs - tipsters which are next in line in the standings and eligible for prizes - in case of prizes being forfeited, so as to speed the process up iniestaone.

What's the deadline for these two users confirming that they have deposited and placed bets?

The list has not been sent to Samvo because they require that tipsters confirm that at least once they have deposited money and placed a bet. I am still awaiting confirmation from all tipsters. There are two others who need to confirm.

Ok Thanks :)

yes, Samvo will advice you about the receiving of the free bet:)

Yes I know. If they won't do it today, is there a chance they will do it in the week-end or will we have to wait for Monday at least?

The prizes have not been credited yet though Sakulbl.

A question for winners from previous months: did you guys get an e-mail from Samvo when you got your prize money credited? Just curious.

Please copy this message in an e-mail and send it to me on david@bettingexpert.com then we will see if anything can be done tkb. Send also any details that you may have received or sent to the bookmaker.

hi
first I would like to apologize for my poor english
i tourgt i wout like to here if i am the only one ther hav problems with vetvictor or I yust wos unluckey?
the situration wos that i wos testing a feyw tings out so had a lot of bets i the low end (around 1,71USD to 17,13USD but i a difrent valuta) then i olsow had 2 bets (around 80,53usd to 83,09usd) on the same day in som low ligas the one whos in the Portuguese Liga ant the other woths in the Ukraine Premier League the one whos a DNB and it endet in a Dwar the other whos a AH+0,25 that dit go home and now i got blasklistet and i perty sure it whos besuse theous to bets and it whos a couensedent that neither of them loost, (the one odds that dit go home whos 2,14 and the other whos 2,25 so i gues that ther whos a chance aroundt 20% that nider wout be a bust after my caugulations and proberly aroundt 15% after ther caugulations) but why yust becuse that it dident go after whots whos the most lickely (80%-85%) du the hav to blacklist my? my guess is that that olsov afeckt how the other bookies look at my ore am i worng on that part?

It should be possible to split it up in different bets.

Ooh alright! Got it. One more thing though, do you have to bet it all once or can you split it up?

The prize is given as a freebet. You will only keep the return but not what you stake.

So you only have to wager it once? I can't find the prize regulations

Prize regulations can be found higher up on this very page iniestaone. Among those is the need to wager the freebet on odds of 1.50 or higher. All tipsters should remember that they need to have made a deposit at least once since opening their account with Samvo through a bettingexpert link.

what's the wagering demand on the bonus funds? I like Samvo, i made my first deposit a few days ago and won a parlay, withdrew 50% to Skrill and i got the money very fast, trustable bookie. I don't like the design at all but the odds are splendid

Where we get feeds for the games have been missing out on some matches and correct kick off times in the past weeks. That is true and we are working on getting them to deliver timely information in order not to create such inconvenience.
In the meantime please be patient and do as likeyoulikeyou suggested. To get the correct league included then contact me on david@bettingexpert.com indicating the tip and the proper league for it so that I can fix that.

@Dikisana: I was in your situation before. If it's emergency there's a work-around. You can choose "Other game" option and input data by yourself (team name, time, etc ...), then put a comment below to explain why you have to do that. BE staff will check and let you know your tip is valid or not. Yes, BE do miss some game (especially in smaller leagues), but I think it's not big a deal . GL.

David - why some games missing from the auto list ?
for today (27.03.2013) Eibar - Osasuna B were I try to make tip for 1/1 Ht/Ft and for tomorrow (28.03.2013) Hartberg - Austria Lustenau were I try to make tip for Away win ! I know that this is not rait place for this questions ,but this is relative to my record and my ranking in monthly competition !

Thanks David. Much Appreciated. And sorry to all tipsters who will receive this. Just want to let you know SamVo sorted the problem.

The stake should now have been returned to your account wdy11.
Any tipster who encounters the same problem should let me know. Contact me via e-mail on david@bettingexpert.com so that we don't send out notifications every time to all tipsters who left a comment on this page.

I'll take care of that wdy11. Contact me via e-mail on david@bettingexpert.com if there is any other detail you want to pass on and which can be useful when I contact Samvo.

Freebet voided and I lost it. Very disappointed. No other bookmakers do that with their free bets.

Only good words for Samvo - withdraw / deposit .Odds are good too for me ,despite of the small number on offers ,but for new bookmaker is good enough.
Already 3 times withdraw with several hours pending the money are in my Skrill account.
Cheers!!!

All winners, or prospective ones at this point, should remember that they need to have opened an account at Samvo through a bettingexpert link. They should then make a deposit and place at least a bet.

Oops, it's always 50% of the prize since you only lose 175 at Betfair, I got it.

Guys, any strategy to secure the prize at Samvo? My strategy: Let say the prize is 700 pounds and there's a bet with odds 2.0, place 700 @ 2.0 at Samvo, then lay 175 @ 2.0 at Betfair. Case 1: you win 700 at Samvo and lose 350 at Betfair -> net profit 350 (50% of the prize). Case 2: you lose at Samvo and win at Betfair -> net profit 175 (25% of the prize). With this strategy you will win 25%-50% of the original prize and that's guaranteed profit. Of course it's not exactly 25% in case you win at Betfair because the gap between the odds of lay and back markets and their commission 5%. Anyone have better strategy, please help !!!

Indeed! Give them a chance. If you are good enough, you are able to make solid money.
I would recommend any guy out there to research better before making a (false) statement.
Also we do not have to forget what BE overall did for us.

I've managed to find a couple of times where they've had the best odds of all my bookies, I have been very impressed though with the exchange rate they applied when giving the monthly prize. Very fair! I'd already worked out based on OANDA what it should be, but I was expecting them to apply some unknown smaller exchange rate that favored them, I was happily surprised when they were slightly better than the OANDA rate. Very impressed...

1x2 odds arent worth it, but take a closer look at some AH odds, sometimes the best of all bookies. GL

I agree with you, David, sometimes we have to sacrifice odds for reputation. For Samvo case, their odds need to be appeared at the odds-checker websites (for example: oddsportal.com) and they also need to be rated by SBR website too (this is the most popular website to review, rate bookmaker and resolve all problems between bookmakers and their customers). By completing these things they for sure will make a huge step forward in what we call "trust with customers". In my own experience, I actually played a few bets with them and had no problems at all, the customer-service is very good and friendly, withdraw is good and fast. Not bad impression but they still need to improve more to make me see them as one of my primary bookies. Cheers

Even top bookmakers cannot always offer the best odds. That is why we shop around for the best. More important aspects, rather than getting 0.07 extra on odds, in my perspective, include the fact that I can trust the bookmaker.
You cannot always have ideal scenarios. Otherwise we would all be cashing in on 18-bet accumulators and celebrating Women's Day the way any hetero guy would think of doing on hearing the words 'celebration' and 'women' in close proximity.
Samvo have shown themselves available for dialogue and have so far proven they can be trusted. There may not be all markets we would wish for but what they do they do it right and honestly.
I am not advocating for using Samvo exclusively. I have no interest in that. But from what use we have been making of them so far they are a bookmaker we can confidently offer to our users, trustworthy when it comes to rewarding our deserving monthly tipsters.

Hi David, as a bettor, what I care most is the odds quality, that's why I play 80% of my bets with reduced juices bookmakers like Pinnacle or Bet365. For Samvo, I don't care if they're new, honest and has a good customer-support service. As long as they offer great odds in my events, I play with them, simple as that. Too bad there's no odds-checker websites (which I know) provide Samvo's odds so it's hard to compare their odds with others.

Samvo have been starting out relatively recently and although they are catching up with providing a variety of markets they have shown good will in terms of reaching out to tipsters. I refer mainly to the voided bets issue we had last month.
They listened to our needs more readily and that is a very positive aspect for all of us.
An honest bookmaker which responds to our requests is always one to treasure so don't limit your analysis to popularity guys. Give them their chance as I think they deserve it.

Well, for top bookmakers I recommend: PinnacleSports, Bet365 and WilliamHill as they always provide the best odds and best services. Below them are StanJames, Betsson, Unibet, 188Bet, Expekt and Ladbrokes. 5Dimes is not recommend here, they post their odds too slow and their web layout is very ugly. And for Samvo, well it's not even in the bookmaker list at Oddsportal. As a main sponsor, BE can't provide users Samvo's odds, too . For me, that says something.

Well they actually take very high limits and winners are welcome, so for the pros at least it's a good bookmaker like there are only very few.
They do seem to have some ways to go with more conventional betting I suppose.

I think samvo is the weakest bookmaker from all over the world

As said by likeyoulikeyou and kalusha any tipster who has similar questions should send me an e-mail on david@bettingexpert.com. I understand this cost many another notification but if it can help reduce them it was worth it.
While we're here, yes there are appropriate check-ups at the end of every month and during the month so I would not have the slightest worry about anyone not updating all of his tips and be awarded an undeserved prize.
Any more follow-up questions or comments should be directed to me on the above e-mail address.

@psycrow: BE staff will check and make sure all bets must be updated correctly before giving away their prizes (that's what I heard from David). Sorry but kalusha is right, you should stop posting your questions here because it's the topic about monthly competition and once you post something, everyone who commented in here will get notification (there's no way to unsubscribe). You should contact David via email for your questions, I think he's no problem to answer you all of that. Hope you understand, good luck man.

then unsubscribe the notification .
for example there is a very intresting post by you just sending lol

dude please write an email with your questions, this is getting annoying! i get notifications of your nonsense every time.

there are some users that dont update they losing bets and just update wining bets!
do you check it before giving the prizes!?

You should either leave a comment on the tip concerned or else write to me on david@bettingexpert.com and include a link to the tip in your e-mail psycrow.

sorry if I ask it here,I don't know where and how to ask questions (pls tell me)
I send a prediction and everything is OK with it,I just didn't select the right bookmaker and the odd I provide is with another bookmaker,what should I do?

The address is david@bettingexpert.com psycrow. You must have sent it in wrong because I am still waiting to receive the e-mail. In fact I'm sending you myself right now so that we hasten the process.

Today I send two predictions , I am still waiting for an answer to my email.

I sent you an email

You can still take part in the Italian competition psycrow. Samvo do not sponsor that. Please contact me on david@bettingexpert.com if you need more information. You can write to me in Italian if you prefer.

I have a big problem :
I like to participate in monthly competition in Italian language part but the sponsor (Samvo) doesn't accept Italian costumers !!!! can you please let me participate in one of competition with my pinnacle or bet365 sponsor !?

lol

Great Job David! Money back on a push bet, this is great!!!

We have discussed the issue of the push bets being considered as lost with Samvo. Guys, they are a more reasonable bookmaker than some here have thought. They did not hesitate in returning the lost stake to the tipsters who have had bets voided. I know there has been some criticism voiced over the new sponsor. We allow it because at bettingexpert we pride ourselves in being the voice of honesty in the gaming market and will not be censoring any criticism that you, the players, put forward. This does not necessarily mean that whatever is said has to be be taken as a fact. Samvo's gesture is a positive sign and encourages further collaboration with a bookmaker which has proven that it listens to the players. We should not expect that bonuses will be offered without any element of risk involved. We all know betting and risk is part of it. That said, should you feel there are any concerns you want to voice you can always do that judiciously and reasonably. You can also contact me on david@bettingexpert.com anytime to discuss any pending issues or problems and we, at bettingexpert, will do our best to intervene.

Guys the big problem is to find a strong bookie because most of the tipsters have allready an opened account at the top bookies and this means that there is no chance to see them to be the major sponsor to this competition.
I mean Betting Expert for sure wanted to ad a reasonable bookie and found in Samvo a good opportunity to increase the prizes as this bookie isn't present on the market to say so.
The chances to take the prizes here is big as you saw by now that this team from Betting Expert is fair and is giving to all the opportunity to win money.
I am sure things will be changed in the next months as Betting Expert will try to find a way to settle things with Samvo.

Despite the fact that you can`t withdraw the bonus and not much selection in general, the site is quite solid and I do like the layout.
It is also not right that voided bets are lost, as they wait 72 hours before they give you the money back.

Just created account at Samvo yesterday and played it with first bet. I have to say the website layout is horrible, like they made it 10 years ago. The odds is ridiculous low. I won the bet and now there's no option for me to withdraw the money (I guess I need to verify my age or something). Never heard this before, just create my account for BE competition, never play with it again.

It is really low number of options for betting :(

Samvo maffia. Worst bookie ever, odds are criminal, no options, no choice in events. I wont poste anymore untill further notice, same reason as Lukica. Too bad such a great site as BE has such a lousy sponsor.

Just a note, I was not slamming the BE team. By far a very well run website which has been very supportive and always helpful to me and many others as that shows from all your comments. Samvo are a very inexperienced bookmaker and it shows I think.

alcuni, be is best site out there. best admins, best design and fair rules that are the same for all puts them above all similar sites..samvo is one of the worst bookies i worked with. and i have tried all that are worth something.. not just because of the competition..

Come on boys:) until now was ok here, right? I am sure David and BE team will found a way to solve this problems. But please stop with all this complaints:) OK Samvo is not the best bookie, but with some patience and luck you can make withdrawals. gl all

+ 1 Wdy11 !

I have to agree with some of the others. Changing rules, terms and conditions is no good way to keep punters coming back and less entices me to make my tips here. And if Void = loss than I would prefer to put my money elsewhere as would any punter surely? Sorry for being critical to Samvo. But the best businesses are those that give their customers a good deal.

We hear you guys voicing your concerns at bettingexpert. Don't worry, we will have a chat with them about some issues. I think this 'void = lost' issue is the most pressing. As for the rest conditions do not sound bad. Eventually there would always be some element of risk involved in claiming bonuses.

We will keep you updated.

David, i think time has come to serch for another sponsor..I must be honest and say that monthly with Samvo gives me no motivation to post tips on the site.. I know that it must be hard to find bookie to give away their money for free but if this continues, we will lose many people in this comunity. I will be the first one to go.. Samvo is changing the rules of the competition as they are pleased, void-lost is just another nonsense, bad offer of sports and events, low number of options to bet etc.. I dont want to sound ungrateful , just sharing my opinion that is, as i believe, shared with many of my friends here..

Now that doesn't sound good boobstore. Void should be void not lost.

Bad news, void bet=lost bet confirmed with samvo

I absolutely agree with Lukica, multiple bets is crap and if you play it long enough, you will become a bookie's cash machine. Any bettors who bet for living need to stay away from it.

I love multiples, it's like a genius at work when you get them all right. However, a win is a win so maybe that's the way it should be.

yes, sometimes multiple bets could give us some extra excitment but longterm they are usles and any serious bettor should concentrate on singels only..

I said nothing about criticism, I just explained that there are circumstances where multiples make sense. Few and far in between, but they do exist.

It is not criticism, I am just telling my straigth opinion!

@sportsbetting77 Multiples do make sense when you have two value bets, as then the value multiplies as well. (instead of just adding up as it would with two single bets) That is why it's a bad idea to bet multiples with negative value, since that multiplies as well instead of just adding up.
But of course since multiples can only be bet at one bookie at once, the likelihood of finding two value bets to multiply isn't that high. And a general drawback of multiple bets is that there is more variance by definition - payoffs will be higher but also rarer.
And finally, the places where you find high odds most often, like Pinnacle or the betting exchanges only make sense with single bets.
But there are scenarios in which betting multiples absolutely makes sense.

Although I must admit I have never bet on multiple I must admit that I'm an open-minded person. I'm always thinking of new possibilities that can really be absurd, but if only one in a hundred is good I will have discovered a new possibility that perhaps no one has taken into account and I will have an advantage.
This is a very exceptional situation requires exceptional solutions and this is a fact.
The solution in my humble opinion as expressed by the other fellow is trying to come up with good ideas or alternatively to make constructive criticism.
I do not agree your criticism sporbetting77 but respect.

I will NEVER EVER understand people betting on multiples! Better a well analyzed studied single bet of odds 2.00 than a crap salad of 3 matches with their own risks combined! Just think about these boobstore ... Try to judge a match by yourself and than, if you want even more belief, see what you favorite tipsters are thinking. If you're matching, just go for it!

I think there is less risk because of this in any case if you are after securing at least half the prize.

Now we've got really fucked

Samvo replied that multiples are not allowed boobstore.

I think so David, hope we can make parlay.

I believe it is boobstore but I will ask them to make sure and report back here.

It's allowed with the freebet to make a parlay (combined-multiple) at Samvo?

@Maradona1 You are right, my bad calculations. Only 50% of the winnings we get in that case.

I answered your question further down this thread sportbetting77. There is a link too. It is 15X turnover but as explained all the prize can be secured without risk in that case.

Still waiting for 10bet conditions! You might know that a normal bonus there requires a 12 times turnover!!! And the Tennis competition has some juicy prizes!

How come Profitt?
At Gamebookers, using bonus and exchange we had chance to secure entire prize without risk.
With Samvo prizes, using freebets and exchange will give you only around 50% from initial prize to cashout.

In case that tactics explained by Joachim is allowed this conditions are better than Gamebookers had. There is no doubt about it.

don't forget, gamebookers had in the past, same conditions regarding that kind of bonus, but they changed it fast:))
why not also samvo?

We will all miss Gamebookers soon..

Thanks David for confirmation that this kind of betting is not against the rules!

The 10bet competition regulations have been published on the tennis competition page:

http://www.bettingexpert.com/competitions/tennis

The initial bonus is withdrawable in that case so the strategy outlined by Joachim earlier is fully possible in that case. The rollover requirements are higher of course.

What Joachim suggests is not against any Samvo rules. They are not being taken advantage of. It is just a method of how you can guarantee for yourself reduced losses.

Of course for a player there is not only the option of trying to reduce losses and guarantee a return via this method. Minimum odds are quite good so one may always go for backing a selection without having to cover for it at the exchange. That means just going for it without the need to be 'insured'.

However, if you want a guaranteed return, which can be limited, you have that option as well.

@ Joachim Offered from uou strategy dont help to make profitt - as Maradona says - betting with freebets in Samvo dont return then ur bonus back - the only idea is to work to find out odds great than 2.00 which all of us know is not an easy job . Anyway - I try his poker rooms - not the best but quite good !

Good suggestion Joachim, but is that by rules?
" If any of the Samvo terms are breached or there is evidence that tipsters are using free bets or other promotional offers to guarantee profits regardless of the outcome Samvo reserves the right to void free bets or any bets funded by bonuses."

It works with freebets too, just a little differently. Lay half (in terms of liability) of what you stand to win at Samvo. This means you are getting 50% of the freebet, but guaranteed.
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The expected value is the same, it's merely a matter of preference: Do you want 50% of the winnings in 100% of the cases, or 100% of the winnings in 50% of the cases?
(assuming 50% / 2.00 style odds, things will vary slightly depending on the actual odds)
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(what does become apparent through this however: Samvo's offer indeed is only half as good as it looks at the first glimpse, so a certain disappointment is absolutely justified in my humble opinion)
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Overall this method is just a nice option to have, and of course in general a good way to make use of signup bonuses/freebets to build up a bankroll (especially if you have to beat nasty turnover requirements, notably minimum odds suddenly become a non-issue).

Joachim, since the prizes at Samvo are freebets and not the bonus, your tactic is useless. For example you place freebet of 100 euros on odds 1.9 and you win, you will have only 90 euros on your balance to cash out since initial stake is not withdrawable.
But in Betfair you will then lose that amount in exchange. So, overall you will not earn anything. On the other side if you lose freebet at Samvo and win in exchange, then you will make profit.
If the prize at Samvo is bonus, then your tactic would be useful in both cases.

Joachim, you just changed the conditions at Samvo!

For anyone afraid of turnover, it is quite easy converting bonuses into money in another bookmaker account by simply betting the exact opposite there. For example, if you bet with Samvo on any team to win to get your turnover, you can lay that same bet on a betting exchange. Continue until either the money shows up in your betting exchange account or until the turnover requirement is met.
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You might lose a few percent of your bonus that way (exchange prices are a little higher than bookie prices), but on the plus side you have no risk despite the turnover.

Thanks David

Yes you should be able to withdraw all the profits made once you turn over the prize one time miliarder.

Thanks, I received bonus.
And last question. I can withdraw after only once turnover?

A bank statement would be an official document issued by the bank you have accounts with delineating your transactions for a particular period of time through that account. You would have your address showing on it, along with name and other details.

Can somebody tell me what is this " mank statement" and how with this I proof my adress ?
( This is required from site ) !

Conditions don't sound bad in that case. 10bet have been contacted and we will be able to get back to you on this sooner rather than later.

Please David, do that, I will wait for updates here, as it is an interesting competition and if they will go for a turnover of 10 times would not be anymore ...

So, I confirm I received the money quite fast
So we have to turnover the bonus once on odds higher than 1,5:)
gl

Samvo have specified nothing about turning over the total for a number of times so it is considered to be once. The stake was withdrawable before but there was a 3X turnover. Now that the stake is only available for betting the turnover requirement is just once. If things turn out differently please contact me.
I thought you were asking for them to sponsor the monthly competition as well sportbetting77. We have none specified at hand but will look them up and make you aware.

Bravo, Alcuni, bravo! Respect!
David - we have tennis competition! I am asking about those prizes!

@ all
regarding the turnover
I have put more bets from the bonus received, and after I finished the bonus I tried to withdraw a part of the money won . The amount was greater than my balance before the bonus
And seems worked. So we need to turnover the bonus once.
As soon the money withdrawn will be in my account I will let you know if everything was ok regarding this
So for the moment seems we have to turnover the value of the bonus received once.
let's wait and see/.. i will update ASAP

Do as profitt or alcuni suggested miliarder. You should have one of those documents that can be sent in to Samvo. They will be able to verify your address through them.
Risking conditions for 10bet? You mean getting them as sponsors sportbetting77?

@miliarder i have sent only copy after my ID and driving license and was ok
try this if you have
gl

@miliarder Send them bank statement, you don't need to send utility bill, too.

They send me email where I must send them copy of passport. What I send them. but I am 19 years old and I don't have Utility bill.
"Please send in a Utility bill or a bank statement dated within the last three moths that clearly shows your registred address."
Is this mean that young people who live with parents can participate in this competition?

I can confirm the bonus is received.
Yes i can agree with the fact this time the terms and conditions are bad,but the prizes are high enough so if you are good with betting can make it more because Samvo offering not bad odds at all despite of small number on markets.
I was happy to see new sponsor because Gamebookers dont work with citizens from my country and the prize is a higher currently 700 Gbp is more than 700 Euro.
Good luck with betting.

We can only bet in major bookmakers like bet365, bwin, William hill or ladbrokes. About 70% are forbidden By game Spanish regulation.

William Hill is forbidden in Germany... due to new laws.

why? Cause you are from Spain? OMG!

At léast samvo is available for Spain. 10bet is forbidden for Crator or me.

David, I asked you here about the risking conditions for 10bet? Can you share them with us, please!

Good luck all to get your money!!!

I always had a chance of withdrawing (winning) the money from bonuses from Gamebookers. Happened one time not to be on target ... Anyway, Samvo are not a bookmaker to risk my money and if they won't improve their offer will just offer bonuses and that's all, as I do not see people coming to them.
Betfair and bet365 are the best places for risking money. William Hill have also some good unique offers.

Money here! I think so Maradona1, the best option for me is BET365

I feel a lot of problems in the future with Samvo and do not expect that this partnership between BettingExpert and Samvo will last much longer.
Many here complained on Gamebookers but obviously they are still miles above this new sponsor.

I was verified too, but it is strange someone receives money earlier than others, no matter I am sure everyone will receive their prizes...

I have been verified a month ago Alcuni so i expect to have the freebet soon.
In the other hand I'll try the following strategy for the freebet, praying to find a pick with a x4 multiplier to withdraw my money. It seems illogical that Samvo doesn't allow multiple bets.

@ profitt & boobstore& kalusha and other which don't received the prize
first of all you must be verified first, as we was last month
these who received tha money was verified already and that's why we received too fast:D
last month we received the price after 15 of the month so..no worry you will receive it too
gl

thanks Dikisana. I don't know that was old rule. :)
Yes I know betting strategies, but I don't know how to place stakes. What is better more risk( all in, half in) or minimal risk (1,2,5 pounds).

@miliarder - not live betting (this was old rule) - only pre-match betting !
Strategy : I think betting on Draws or HT/FT could give u in long time some profit ,but this is my opinion !

No money here!

No profitt, but I did not give my ID yet... so that could be the problem. No need to hesitate.
Samvo got scared cause of my profit of over 300 units last month, thats why the decided to change rules :D
Seriously..., really bad luck for me that I am starting with hard conditions.

Did anyone else except Dikisana receive prize for January?

Have someone good strategy to won some clear money from this crazy rules? i don't have too much experience with that kind of rules. Live betting, only profit can be withdraw.
Here is my email: magneticadidas@hotmail.com

Yeah thats rait - they return only profit as same as I explain in my example .
I already try his poker rooms - not bad ,but let see later !

@Dikisana: Return profits only??? I have to say this is ridiculous.

Last month the terms and conditions was good i make double on my prize and try to withdraw then wasnt problem too and maybe not one or two tipsters make a profit from them last month,but with this month will be more harder to make profit and btw my account is still empty :)

Here is different - you dont need 3xtimes rollover of bonus ,but when u place a bet with bonus they return only profits . Example : bet 100euro bonus x event with 1.8 odds - in case of win Samvo give u back 80euro "clear" money only (not 180 ) . And once again - his list with matches are poor ,doesnt offer oubles ,trebles e.t.c. sports .Soon Ill try his poker rooms and give you info for quality !

Guys, I played with bet365's bonus long time ago with the same conditions, so I think I can help you guys clear about those. I deposited 200$ to bet365 then claimed the bonus and got 200$ for free. So I had 400$ in total, unfortunately I need to bet 3x of this amount then I could withdraw. So, YOU NEED TO BET 1200$ and it does NOT include the profit of each bet (in case you win). So, if your stake is 10$ for each bet, you need 120 bets with odds over 1.5.

I think that 3xtimes turnover of bonus is not in use now ,but there is still very hard to make some profit in this conditions . My first two bets today was double chanves (I dont knowed that they dont back rest of bonus in case of win ) and these two best was winning in normal conditions but gave me only 70% of used bonus stack . And theremore - events are not so many ,the odds are not so great - thise site are far from top bookies !

we must try anyway sportbetting:)

I am very curious to see how many of the colleagues that won the prizes will be able to withdraw something with these conditions ... from this "samvo"!
David, please tell me the conditions of the bonus for TENNIS COMPETITION from 10bet! I must know if I will work there also for some "mission impossible" Thanks!

bud ...in these circumstances, how we can turnover 3 times the bonus??
we must turnover, after we use the entire bonus once, from our balance???

No price in my account for January

Yes it is point number 6 from above DIKISANA:
"The freebet stake is not
returned and neither is it withdrawable."
Rules have been modified by Samvo, as published here in the past weeks. They are different from those for the prizes of last December.

yeap something like that:)

When I bet on odds 1.8 with 100euro and win they give me back only 80 ?!
If this is the rulls will be so pitty - then to make some really good profit I have to bet only with odds more of 2.00 and in the best case I'll win amount equal of my prize .So strange !

they give you back only the profit:) the stake (from the bonus is deducted)..nasty...
last month wasn't so; they gave you back the profit and the stake; but last month the price was credited direct in the balance not as a bonus, as is for January price
.....

Thanks - I already receive prize for January and make some bets ...its little bit complicated .I make bet for one match on Draw and Away win - the outcome was Away and this bet win but I dont understand how they calculate then ?!

No DIKISANA. Only pre-match bets are valid from now on. Not live bets.

Prize requirement are :
1) 3x turnover
2) odds high then 1.5
3) 60 days period
Is not necessary to be " live betting " ???

I had the same problem like boobstore (deposit with credit card) just becose my currency was US $ - after make new account with preferable currency euro everything was ok .Other negative (for me) is that they wait 72hrs after postponing of game to give you back stack .GL to all tipsters here !

The only problem I've had with Samvo is to deposit money with the credit card, in my case I call Samvo and they make me a deposit. It is the only time that has happened and I have accounts with virtually all bookmakers. I have also said that if they want to grow as bookmakers must have support in most languages​​.
It is a young company that must grow, we must give them time.

In fact I made all requirements and then contacted support as I had still withdrawal option unavailable, after quite short verification I can make withdrawal. Requirements are as above
minimal odds 1,50, anly livebetting, and 3xrollover/turnover of your prize from Betting Expert. Quite easy to make.
@soccerfan - you need to bet 3x amount of your prize from this competition only. All profit and initial amount of prize are yours after that.

Any idea what we should to do with the prize and the turnover x 3?
So i bet 30 GBP on 2.00 odd and they will calculating only the win at all (30 GBP).
What else?We should to bet this clear win (30 GBP) 3 times on 1.5+ odds?

small blip is that Samvo stop livebetting around 88-90 minute, not wait till FT. Or maybe it is only in less known leagues. Rest really good.

ok,fine. I have money as well

first props for Samvo - quality, fast, professional support.

Yes guys Samvo required that some send over verification documents before they could upload funds to the tipsters' accounts. There should be no problem whatsoever but if anybody does not get the prize please let me know. You can send me an e-mail on david@bettingexpert.com.

ok, situation is clear - I don't have verified account, so if you not sending documents - you don't have bonus. I send and I waiting. Intelligent option, no problems in future with withdrawing I think

i see money in my account at balance

really?
on money account any changes on balance and bonus..
why?

money in account

Samvo confirmed whether conditions were met by all tipsters. they needed time to go through this. The prizes should be in any time. A reminder has been sent today.

Still no bonus, when someone gets it credited please, inform:)

I must say that with this odds and turnover req., i could bet on anysport in the world. And yes, great in play odds. Only thing that bothers me is that sometimes you have to wait more than a minute or two for your bet to be accepted in-play. That can be really frustrating if you in some point see an opportunity during game and your team score while your bet still pending. But all in all, verry good bookie and if software will improve in future, i will stick with them for some time.

They do have limited markets at the moment but odds are good and good return is definitely possible from the prizes you will be receiving soon.

they never have? even Grand Slams?

sad thing - Samvo have very good HCs options, but don't have tennis..:(

funny situation, I remember really good bad start, when after two days of December I have -60 units. Oen of the best streak in 2012 for me in last days. Lot of moneys.

This is directed to all the winners, and those who are inclose proximity as they would be involved should any of the top ten not be eligible for the prizes. It is very important to make sure that you have opened your Samvo account through a bettingexpert link and made the deposit. You will forfeit your prize otherwise since any other arrangement will not be acceptable for you to claim the prize.

It's ok David, I responded

Well done. High figures in fact. With regards to your issue with prizes please check your e-mail inbox BlackBilledMagpie as we would always like to see how we can reward our tipsters anytime their contributions allow them to finish amongst the monthly winners.

Congratulations Poetik and to all prize winners, there were big scores this month! It's good that I finished 11th because I could not use the prize. Happy new year and thanks to all of you for your good tips!

Hi kampala. Welcome to the bettingexpert family. Please write an e-mail to me on david@bettingexpert.com with all your difficulties and I will be glad to introduce to you all the bettingexpert features you need to get acquainted with.

hello,please am new here,can someone help me with the right way to go about it

Yes Poetik, the prizes will be available for betting only on live bets.

in-running? only live bets, yes?

It is great tipsters can see conditions for prizes. There were lot of question related with that topic in past. Now it is all visible and clear. Good job!

Thanks, David

Yes you can miliarder. In that case you will need to make a minimum deposit of GBP10 or equivalent in your currency though.

can I via skrill account?

Yes that is the minimum amount you can deposit in order to have a real money account if you deposit via credit card.

ok I understand everything except this
"GBP5 or equivalent in your currency can be enough." It means 5 pounds is enough?

It depends on your method of deposit miliarder. GBP5 or equivalent in your currency can be enough.
I remind all tipsters that they need to make the deposit in order to have their account credited with Samvo bonuses. The prizes will otherwise have to be forfeited if we do not have your validated Samvo username in our database so take care and do this asap in order to make sure of eligibility.

what is minimum deposit to have real money account?

what Lukica said. I wonder if there are more restrictions cause theoretically i could make with that 15 pounds 1500.

Thanks, sportbetting77

I think you can.

Yes, but main question is do you have to place one bet or you could devide your your bonus in multiple stakes in 60 day period..

"only the winnings are kept".
You win 100 Pounds. Samvo will give you the bonus and if you don;t bet the money you canlt withdraw anything.
If you bet on 1.50 and win you will have 50 Pounds that can be withdrawn.
If you bet on 3.00 you can withdraw 200 Pounds.
If you bet on 1.01 you can withdraw 1 Pound.

don't know if i'm getting it. let's say i won 15 pounds, i start betting and make a profit of... let's say 185 pounds in a 2 month frame i can withdraw all my profit?

OK, that is good.
Where I can click to register from your site on sumvo?

Now I'm not sure about whether it will be one bet or else you do get the possibility to stake any amount you want from your prize. We will check on that and report back.

thanks, only one bet on any odds and then I can withdraw?
exp. 50 $ on 1.50 odds.
I win and then I can withdraw 50$?

I suppose that once you bet your stake on the odds you choose you get to keep and withdraw any returns (minus the original stake).

what is withdraw rules for this competition?

Welcoming news from David, I guess we can give a few tipsters here an early christmas present? Hope you all got yours and Congrats once again.

All tipster accounts have been credited by Gamebookers. Good luck with your bets guys.

Sportbetting, my email is lukica@gmx.com, send me a qustion if you have some?

GB credited the account

Samvo will be the sponsor of our monthly tipster competition from now on.

Lukica, you said something about your method of winning the prizes! Where can I contact you? Your address is not valid on the profile! Thanks!

I think samvo will be from now on..

What about January - February? Whom will be out sponsor?

One more question for admins, prizes are in british pounds??Because if they are, that is quite boost for monthly as well.. That is +160 euro for 1. prize..

yes, is great, but hope that not must to put all the money on a single bet

These requiements from samVo are like dream.. People give you money to invest and all you earn, you can take home.. That is really great..

It would be great if prizes will be given before Saturday, any chance of that David?

Soon Stardu5t but probably Gamebookers won't make it in time for tomorrow's games. Fingers crossed.

When can we receive ours prizes? There are some intersting games tomorrow

Well i can see that top guys making enormous amount of tips. i hope it will be Good day for all of you.. I hope i could end in top 4 this month.. I dont know what would be the best tactic when you are leading the competition but i decided not to post any tips today and leave it all to faith. Good luck guys one more time!

Thanks its working now

just bet with the money you recived..when you rollower it 6 times you can cash it out..

Ok can someone please tell me how to use the winnings in Gamebookers as I have no idea how it works. Do you have to use your own money to rollover and get GB points or can you use the winnings to bet with?

Got it today :) Thanks. Check your accounts guys.

Soon hope_floatz.

Any info when we can expect last months prizes on gamebookers account?

it was easy.. ... Took me 3 days to rollover 1500 euros and make some profit.. If somebdy needs help and wants to now the fastest way to do it, contact me on mail.. Cheers

Welcome!

Thank You sportbetting.. Actually, there is 50 euro limit per bet, that is quite disappointing...

minimum odds 1.60, stake how much you want, just that you need to roll them 5 times. You have a good situation of the bank roll inside the account, explained, do not withdraw until you make the roll over. Looks tough on the first sight, but the conditions where tougher with 2.00 minimum odds, and they have a poor offer as variants or prices - AH are not there ...
Enjoy! and good luck!

Can someone from previous winners of Monthly competition explain me how it works with gamebookers prizes? Is there roll-over conditions any special demands etc.. Thank you

:)), don't worry, from 10 people 8 are spelling it wrong :))

sorry man for the name.. my apologies. I am tired and my brain is a puding right now..

Please spell my nickname correctly!
I am also extremely tired when a month is closing, especially mentally tired! To restart in the day after I really need some nerve!
Anyway,in betting is important to have this wisdom when to stop! If we don't have it we lose!

Thank you sportingbet.. Bilbao and Slaven were worst tips.. Bilbao is unrecognizable from the last season.. I had a tip on atletico to win but did not have internet all afternoon an did not posted it in time.. And lokomotiva recived goal in last minutes.. that was unfortunate. It does not matter, i had a great fun this month.. i am thinking on taking a break but tomorow is a champions league and i will spend some hours on that.. ITS HARD TU STOP.. and about experience.. i have it plenty, but we all lose control sometimes.. congrats to all... it was a great month..

Stupid choices on Gent vs Brugge + Monaco vs Ajaccio ruined my possibility of going top! One of my best months and I am only third :((!!! Congrats to Lukica, great month man, well spotted choices, followed you on a couple, unfortunately you forced too much in the last days, you need more experience and some more patience!

immuNaGe promotions are processed at the end of every month. So that would be in some ten days time.

I am sorry for my question , maybe I have to ask it not here , but how can I promoute from Trial Tipster ??I want to participate in all competitions , and I allready have some tips , also I have made accs on Betfair and gamebookers.com , and made the first deposite , and I still cant participate in this competitions :( why ???

I like this site

Soon karatekid. Most probably next week.

When will gamebookers credit prizes for July?

Hi Cosminda1, You can join our competition by entering your username with the bookie you are with here: http://www.bettingexpert.com/competitions and also we have the Euro2012 competition, although you will have register on the competition with our site. Good Luck.

Hello. I like your site and would like to be a part of it, but i confess that the prizes sound attractive too. Unfortunately I already have accounts to all the big bookmakers. Do I have anychance in competing here?

There is no pre-defined period GoGo. It depends on the effort shown and the quality of the work uploaded. Tipster lists are reviewed every month and at the end promotions are processed.

Its the first time I reas this comments page,very nice indeed...I signed less than a week ago at betting expert and I can´t remember If my actual betting sites (Gamebookers and 10Bet) were started trought bettingexpert (I guess so). Anyways complements too all and sometimes I find so funny the difference of sound between nice views and nothing there...but,after all it´s very sweet being able to monitor and track different methods and ways of tiping or even betting. Thanks for being here bettingexpert... Best regards

I have received the prize...

Great site with many best tips from all world!